Tatoruzu the turtles are the aggressors in the book and shredder in mirage is a morally grey person and not a mustache twirling villain like the 03 show and the incel crash out generational hater in the 2012 show and 1990 film , like the turtles are morally grey individuals we didn't see what led up to the turtles being cornered in an alley by the purple dragons splinter just sent them on a mission to test their ninja skills on random civilians they deemed were criminals a tough gang as Leonardo narrates we dont know what happened
between the tristen jones story line where this hunter Mason stuff was going and the issue 1 open panel and on top of that the turtles targeted orroku saki who had no quarrel with them and the turtles who were groomed by their rat surrogate father /sensei to avenge the death of his owners domestic dispute and yoshi broke the clans rules regardless of the domestic violence of them competing for tang shen yoshi murdered a fellow member of the clan and fled dishonoring himself

    Tatoruzu wheres cherry picking crimes this is in the books and the cartoons and movies that's not cherry picking sir that's receipts sounds like projection my guy.

        Y'all, I'ma be so serious when I say this, if y'all don't like someone's comments just report the comments. I'm not defending them, but still. It seems more logical than making it Tatoruzu's problem.

          Tatoruzu that would also mean tmnt is an Asian stereotype to and they didn't kill in self defense in issue 1 they called out shredder to run the fade restarting the cycle of hate and vengance and tasked Raphael to find him and deliver a message killing three guards doing their job gaurding their property from trespasssers and splinter told them to go out and be vigilantes to graduate them into becoming trained killers on some street youths and splinter didn't show up to confront shredder himself making an excuse about himself being too old and dying living way past a rats expiration date and begging gallahad if that image big bang comics was Canon to fight his battles when we see him being active against mousers in issue 2 and fighting the foot and a clone shredder and aiding them on their first mission being possessed by gosei Hattori grandpa and then all of a sudden the turtles were reluctant to stop the foot from end fighting in the city at war storyline being the cause of the division and the city being terrorized by killing shredder and leaving a power vacuum?

            SpiderBytez i took it to Tatoruzu cause he and my ninja turtles channel encourages these grifting right wing chuds I could fly off the handle and call him and his fans anti white racial slurs but im civilized and i like him and I wanted to have a friendly dialog to come to an understanding but he's calling me retarded and cursing me out cause I disagree with his subtle racist jabs and trying to convince him to change his negative behavior because it attracts the wrong people.

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                • Post #23

                Tyron_Leung thats the mirage comics which were always edgier. the turtles in mutant mayhem are clearly geared for children which is why its weird to depict them as blatant criminals. outside of that i have no horse in the race i dont see any contradictions in either sides rhetoric here. its gay as hell to be so blatantly hostile tho

                    Gort I guess you wouldn't be able to find a "contradiction" if no coherent argument has been made that explains why the Mirage turtles drinking a beer somehow justifies Mutant Mayhem turtles stealing from an innocent third party's small business. You can't contradict yourself if you fail to even proper make the logical connection between your conclusion and your premises — it's just nonsense schizobabble at that point.

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                        • Post #25

                        Tatoruzu the "asian steroetype" post certainly was. i make no great claim to intelligence but i could not follow that post at all

                          Tyron_Leung Bro, at this point you might as well move on and find a different TMNT content creator to enjoy. You’re posting long, rambling messages that really prove no point and you’re just here mostly to be a contrarian from what I can see. You’re free to do what you like, but I think you’re just wasting your time.

                            Tatoruzu I mean, “right wing grifting cHuDs” kinda gives away some of his positions lol. You’ve talked extensively on characters of other ethnicities you enjoy. Anytime racism is brought up is you exposing progressives and their own unaware bias and lowkey racism. What matters is what you say, not stupid racist people in the comments (after separating what is actually a racist comment of course).

                                Gort
                                I’m not the one that’s hostile. where did I use Pejoratives and Obscenities to start off the conversation. I called out tatoruzu borderline racism on his Jewish turtle comic that’s low key antisemetic I had nothing to say about the Jewish coded racism in the video cause that’s none of my business to defend the Jewish community and the tmnt staff hiring a Jewish man to make a comic about one of the turtles being confronted by a mob of Jewish men, he and his followers called me “triggered retarded accusing people of cultural appropriation and monkeys.”

                                Sounds like immature man babies projecting snow flake behavior over a cartoon the creators sold away willingly. who who can’t handle receipts that debunks his political talking points of his channel, I wasn't even talking about mutant mayhem tatoruzu brought up the one scene in a recent movie of the turtles stealing food for their survival, where they just so happened to cast two of the turtles Donatello and Michaelangelo with black voice actors. He made it racial.

                                Some of the fandom coded the tmnt as black Asian white Latino native America what ever long before mutant mayhem or rise came out in deviant fan art, their own head canon parody dubs long before Nickelodeon purchased the rights or this interpretation was created by Seth Rogen and point grey, I was talking about the franchise in general.

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                                    Tatoruzu never said any of that I voiced my concern about your followers racism and where you stand now that I see it I’m going to unfollow and debunk your grift