Tatoruzu debunked Black coded tmnt evidence

Tyron_Leung

tmnt oozes with ready for the world Jesse Johnson jackson 5 jerhi curl activator juice. O'Neal is a common black american english scottish and irish surnames just like McFadden o'connor Grady etc irish are heavily in caribbean and black american ancestry the turtles have a dap the high foot & high three as seen in the games next mutation and the movie. In the 2003 show we saw the turtles have a afrocentric lecture with a homeless pan african about the theory of relativity like you see with sa neter tv on 125th in harlem on the side walk. they break out in choreographed new jack swing dance moves in their katas in the movies like Zack Taylor improvised hiphopkido martial arts in mighty morphin power rangers they have swagged out pimp suits or they dress in early 2000s gear, splinter is a reggae head and plays chess with a blind black man in the park andre realistically if mirage was given a movie they would sound like New York borrows youth like the blaxploitation grittieness like a death wish film or education of Sonny Carson or a wu tang clan type esthetic "nah meen or word is bond" a predominant black american Jamaican Puerto Rican dominican accent Italian or Jewish accent which was phasing out. than a California surfer bro narly radical totally tubeular accent that was only Michaelangelo with a surfer bro accent from townsend coleman.

Tatoruzu

I know that you know better than this, Tyron. I'm not even going to dignify this with a proper response.

VCRVinnie

Tatoruzu is that guy possibly trolling you?

Tyron_Leung

Tatoruzu consider me the black tatoruzu the polar opposite a wario and walugigi to Mario and luigi, venom to spiderman, slash to the ninja turtles i got as much of a say on whiteness as you i got white relatives and ancestors B.

Tatoruzu

VCRVinnie Nah, he's just like this 🤣

Tyron_Leung

VCRVinnie i
Could be but also that's the beauty of it like stan Lee for example anybody can relate to the marvel characters like spider-man fantasic four or the x-men because tmnt is like the world outside our door and anybody can see themselves though the tmnt.

Stu_Paddasso

I’m guessing that Tyron either wasn’t around in the 80’s or 90’s or doesn’t remember them very well, but that’s how everyone acted and dressed back then. I grew up in a very rural, predominantly white area and we dressed up in very loud clothing and listened to MC Hammer, Criss-Cross, Wu-Tan Clan, Tag Team and Vanilla Ice, the latter of whom last I checked, was white. We all watched Fresh Prince of Bell Air and Family Matters and impersonated Steve Urkel. It’s never been an exclusively “black” thing. More recently even country musicians like Jason Aldean have been putting rap lyrics into their music like his song “Dirt Road Anthem.”

And yes, white girls and even some guys had perms.

It like we’ve got a whole bunch of people running around these days that’s never been exposed to any media made prior to Y2K. I bet if they ever watched Porky’s or Blazing Saddles they would loose their shit.

“He said the Sheriff is near!”

Also, it’s a bit ridiculous present the TMNT as humans. They’re turtles. They don’t fall under any sort of human ethnic category. Unless you’re doing a story where they’re in some sort of disguise or have been placed under a curse or something, It undermines the basic premise of the franchise. It would be like having a costumed vigilante dressed up as a goose and calling him “Batman.”

Tyron_Leung

Stu_Paddasso exactly they're anthropromophized reptiles that mimic what they see with humans that's the beauty of it anybody from any background can relate to tmnt

Tatoruzu

Tyron_Leung Nah, you're not the polar opposite. The polar opposite of me would be someone who loves Rise, hates Mirage, and wants TMNT to be filled exclusively with race-swapped, fat, queer characters.

Stu_Paddasso

My apologies, Tyron. I suspect that English isn’t your first language, but why did you bring up “Coding“ in your original post?

I am wary of the idea of “Coding” being used as to represent something that they aren’t really are. For years when I read the X-men, there were people who had argued that Bobby Drake a.k.a. “Iceman” was gay. Why? Because he slid down ice poles that were “phallic” and that he was a ladies man which meant he was overcopmpincating for being gay. Its like arguing that all the men who performed on film, television and radio in the early 20th century where gay because they sounded like Nathan Lane, when in reality people spoke like that because of the limitations of the recording equipment of the time.

But none the less, after more than fifty years of published history and when Stan Lee was one foot in the grave, they clumsily “outed” Iceman in a way that made it look like Jean Grey turned him gay.

The point being, is that if you’re a good enough bullshit artist, you can recontexelize and imply anything and anyone into anything. Take Sophie Campbell’s run on TMNT for example…

You have human-animal hybrids, interdemendtional aliens, bullshit mysticism, medical lockdowns and quarantines, curtailment of civil liberties, a complicit mainstream media, and Jay the gay frog.

Clearly, she’s a fan of Alex Jones.

Is Future-Bob de-mutating Lita really a statement on trans issues, or is it really about forcing little kids to take the jab? I don’t remember Bob doing a whole lot of double blinded peer reviewed research before doing what he did. I guess we’ll know when she drops dead in the middle of a soccer match.

The rabbit hole goes even deeper, ladies and gentlemen. Is Sophie even trans or does Ross have a sister that we don’t know about and he’s just doing this to get work?

We report. You decide.

Obviously I’m joking, but watch that bullshit spread like wildfire on the internet. I look forward to seeing it on Reddit.

“I WILL EAT YOUR ASS!”

Tyron_Leung

Stu_Paddasso pause, i dont do zesty

Gort

how much of this is black coding vs just being from new york?

Tyron_Leung

Gort depends

Gort

Tyron_Leung on what? what is anyone meant to do with a one word response my guy? why bother replying at all if you dont really have anything to say?

Tyron_Leung

Gort i dont see them being Californian surfer accent dude bros like townsend introduced for Michaelangelo in the 87 toon to distinct him from raph and leo the most leathal of the turtles if we are talking the mirage comics continuity.

from a Eastman and Laird stance being non new yorkers from white suburbia in new Hampshire portsmith Massachusetts natives they would probably have the Frank Millerisms of being culturally Asian and influnced by junk TV disgaurded books comics and new papers they would probably coded "weeaboo white guys," in the world of mirage if it alligned with our world with the demographic of NYC at the time the turtles realistically be "black & asian coded" in my opinion because the youth culture back then was Punk rock hair metal R&B hiphop new jack swing era pretty much the Italian Jewish predominant youth culture as you can see in works of fiction.

like fantastic four for example Ben grimm the thing being the stand in for jack kirby as a rock golem compared to the likes of Raphael both having being interpreted with having a very distinct Brooklyn accent unlike his brothers and love of trench coats and fadoras houmfrey bogard cagneyian nior detective look in 87 toon or the 90s movie, or Peter Parker spiderman being the wall flower Jewish kid from Queens, or another example of Ralph bashki body of works telling the story of Italian Jewish youth heavy traffic fritz the cat or american pop etc. the white culture was pretty much showed that greaser mob gangster image present in golden age and silver age comics was phasing out by the late 60s, 1970s with youth demographic culture being influenced by black american, caribbean, and latino cultural influnces that moved into burrows that use to be scottish British dutch german, then Irish then jewish now became black in local law abiding citizens in the neighborhoods street gangs pimps hookers and youth cultural in general that became the defacto culture as things such as white flight changed how new york was precived at the time in media, so in a grounded realistic way the upbringing of the turtles would maybe influnced by the diverse demographic of prepubescent adolescents child hood culture of the 70s and 80s in nyc observing the human world from a distance when stepping outside their lair beneath the sewers and got their human behavior from watching junk television like the A team hill street Miami vice happy days whats happening different strokes the love boat golden girls Sanford and son archie bunker star trek addams family the munsters B movies etc. Or listening to soft rock or r&b soul records whatever they could slavage from Japanese music from hamato yoshi & tang shens apartment if splinter ever went to the brown stone apartment where they were killed post mutation.

But that's just my two cents does that make any sense to you?

Gort

bruh yeah thats basically what i said but like way longer and more incomprehensible. i think we agree. maybe.