lordvector104 Imagine, IDW Leo, who has had +100 issues worth of battles against many of villains, just get his ass kicked by Mirage Shredder, who has died in first Mirage TMNT book. But of course, to be fair, Savanti did interfere in this battle, but IDW Leo will still lose this battle because of his inexplicable negative mentality. Not to mention his final, most reckless attack only struck the Mirage Shredder's pauldrons. What chould I say that? Just like what Savanti said: "These are the most pathetic turtles yet!"